Help! Controlling Wet/Dry reverb level on independent tracks in sequencer.

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[rudee]

The same like in topic. How can I controll reverb level by sliders on each of the tracks in sequencer? For example I want to have 5% reverb level (wet) on track 1, 10% reverb (WET) on track 2, no reverb on track 3, etc. How can I do this using all 16 tracks?

Sorry...I will try easier:) Example: I have ONE REVERB used in sequencer, but I want to controll wet/dry signal of this reverb on each of the instrument(channels)? How to do this?

thanks - Raphael

[The Chuck]

You'll need to edit each of the programs so that the WET/DRY levels of each program are controllable by the slider in question.   

Also, you'll need to tell each program to use your custom KDFX studio for this sequence.

So, 1.  Assign the KDFX studio to each program used in the sequence
2.   Assign the appropriate slider to control the Wet/Dry amount in the KDFX studio per program

It's a tedious chore if your sequence has lots of programs.

Use a DAW

[rudee]

Thanks a lot Chuck!

I will do this. I want to controll reverb level during recording specially drums and bass and some other instruments. I use DAW, but I really need this for live situation without laptop:) I want to use only 2 keyboards on stage in one of my projects. I have SP2X as main piano/rhodes and K2661 as a synth/sampler and sequencer. I don't want to take other equipment - too much cables, sound cards, etc....not in this project (funky/fusion duo - me and guitar player).

thanks a lot

[The Puppeteer]

On the K2600, it's not easy to do this.

You have 4 output busses with an insert on eacy, and a single Aux buss.

What you need to do is send each sound to a seperate output buss, and then use the Aux Sends from these busses to control the reverb amount (put the reverb on the Aux Buss).

[The Chuck]

You'll want to start by building your KDFX studio before you do anything else.   get that set up, and then you'll be in a much better place.    I'd suggest building it from scratch.    It'll be easiest if you also write down somewhere what your KDFX studio is set up as, be it A-1. DIST B-2. DLY. C-3 PHASER. D-4 DRY(no fx) Aux:RVRB, so you can see how your studio is set up before you start changing the routing of the sounds used in your sequencers.    

Also, be sure to remember that whichever program you assign to be the master FX program in the sequencer, whichever FXMODs are being used for that program will override the FXMODs that your other sequence programs use, I believe.   So, if the sequence controller for KDFX is set to chan 15 (16 is the click prog by default), whichever FXMODs you have set up in the program on Channel 15 will override the FXMODs on all other channels.   In the manual, they dictate that the best approach is to create a program whose sole job is to control KDFX in all facets.   This program is the one that you'll need to assign to your KDFX channel, and you'll also need to have record enabled whenever you use your sequencer, or else it won't respond to the slider messages...    Basically, your channel 15 KDFX Controller program is going to have all of the AuxSend-per-buss settings.  no other program will.  you'll only change which KDFX Buss your sequencer programs (chan1-14) go to (KDFX A-D).

Or, at least I think that's what you'll have to do.   I use DAWs, so I never bother with dealing with KDFX and the sequencer.  that, and the drum sounds that come with the Kurz are just awful.   complete garbage.

[stubbsonic]

Not to muddy the waters, but a variation to this:
1. set up KDFX studio as you need
2. alter programs so that reverb wet/dry is modified by chosen slider
3. instead of worrying about which program has the KDFX studio, set KDFX to MASTER MODE--
   this locks the KDFX studio so that it is not selected by the current channel, song, etc.
  Now select your studio and it will stay until you take KDFX out of Master mode.
4. When you are done with this mode/project, you can put KDFX back to whatever mode it was in.

[The Chuck]

Do the FXMODs work with a Master studio?  You'd think it wouldn't because when you change studios from within the program editor, it resets all of the FXMOD assignments (annoyingly).  Also, you might have a controller assigned to something that doesn't exist in the KDFX studio.   

[stubbsonic]

Ah yes. You're right. Thanks. Retract my suggestion about master mode in KDFX.

[TimmyP1955]

For live use, it might be wise to (if possible) include a master wet/dry.  I find that the amount of reverb dialed up by a player on stage is about double the amount that sounds good in the house, especially if it gets mixed to mono in the PA (some effects sound pretty crummy when mixed to mono).  You want to make it easy to crank it back.

Better yet might be to have the wet on separate outputs from the dry, so you can let the mixperson adjust the levels on the fly.